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	<title>Comments on: Clarifying Calvinism (Part 3)</title>
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		<title>By: Jerry Reardon</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2009/01/15/clarifying-calvinism-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-284116</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Reardon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In dealing with &quot;free&quot; will, I strongly recommend &quot;God&#039;s Greater Glory: The Exalted God Of Scripture And The Christian Faith&quot; by Bruce A. Ware. It really helped me pull things together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In dealing with &#8220;free&#8221; will, I strongly recommend &#8220;God&#8217;s Greater Glory: The Exalted God Of Scripture And The Christian Faith&#8221; by Bruce A. Ware. It really helped me pull things together.</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2009/01/15/clarifying-calvinism-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-283190</link>
		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Andrew. Bad George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew. Bad George.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olson&#039;s book was a bit of a let down simply because it was devoid of any meaningful exegesis of the relevant passages.  Robert Picirrili of the Free Will Baptist College had a similar problem with his book defending Arminianism, &quot;Grace, Faith, and Free Will.&quot;

One source often over looked is the works of Jacob Arminius.  They may be a tad heavy for some, but what&#039;s better than straight from the horse&#039;s mouth.

Most importantly, though, I cannot recommend enough the Thomas and Steele book on Calvinism.  It is by far the best introduction to the subject in print.  

Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olson&#8217;s book was a bit of a let down simply because it was devoid of any meaningful exegesis of the relevant passages.  Robert Picirrili of the Free Will Baptist College had a similar problem with his book defending Arminianism, &#8220;Grace, Faith, and Free Will.&#8221;</p>
<p>One source often over looked is the works of Jacob Arminius.  They may be a tad heavy for some, but what&#8217;s better than straight from the horse&#8217;s mouth.</p>
<p>Most importantly, though, I cannot recommend enough the Thomas and Steele book on Calvinism.  It is by far the best introduction to the subject in print.  </p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donsands-

George Bryson deleted a comment from the Doug Wilson quote and printed it on his book as an &quot;endorsement&quot;. Although I don&#039;t know for sure, I don&#039;t think Wilson was actually promoting the book.

Here is the &quot;endorsement&quot; on the back of Bryson&#039;s book:


George Bryson is a very unusual non-Calvinist. He is able to describe the doctrinal position of Calvinism without putting any extra eggs in the pudding. His descriptions are fair and accurate, and he clearly knows his subject. The first portion of the book, the place where he does all this, is very good.


Here is the actual quote. Notice the last two lines which were left off the &quot;endorsement&quot;:

George Bryson is a very unusual non-Calvinist. He is able to describe the doctrinal position of Calvinism without putting any extra eggs in the pudding. His descriptions are fair and accurate, and he clearly knows his subject. The first portion of the book, the place where he does all this, is very good. The second, where he turns to refutation, falls in another category. The name of this book is The Five Points of Calvinism: Weighed and Found Wanting.

Hmmmmmm... Taken out of context, unnaturally abridged, and then used for specific agenda in a book about theology.

How ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donsands-</p>
<p>George Bryson deleted a comment from the Doug Wilson quote and printed it on his book as an &#8220;endorsement&#8221;. Although I don&#8217;t know for sure, I don&#8217;t think Wilson was actually promoting the book.</p>
<p>Here is the &#8220;endorsement&#8221; on the back of Bryson&#8217;s book:</p>
<p>George Bryson is a very unusual non-Calvinist. He is able to describe the doctrinal position of Calvinism without putting any extra eggs in the pudding. His descriptions are fair and accurate, and he clearly knows his subject. The first portion of the book, the place where he does all this, is very good.</p>
<p>Here is the actual quote. Notice the last two lines which were left off the &#8220;endorsement&#8221;:</p>
<p>George Bryson is a very unusual non-Calvinist. He is able to describe the doctrinal position of Calvinism without putting any extra eggs in the pudding. His descriptions are fair and accurate, and he clearly knows his subject. The first portion of the book, the place where he does all this, is very good. The second, where he turns to refutation, falls in another category. The name of this book is The Five Points of Calvinism: Weighed and Found Wanting.</p>
<p>Hmmmmmm&#8230; Taken out of context, unnaturally abridged, and then used for specific agenda in a book about theology.</p>
<p>How ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: William du Plooy</title>
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		<dc:creator>William du Plooy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently went through R.C. Sproul&#039;s: 

What is Reformed Theology? (formerly titled Grace Unknown)

http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/easy_find?Ntk=keywords&amp;Ntt=what+is+reformed+theology&amp;action=Search&amp;N=0&amp;Ne=0&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;nav_search=1&amp;cms=1&amp;Go.x=21&amp;Go.y=21

Which I read in book form and I went through the DVD series (Audio also available); which was awesome from a Theological &amp; Historical point of view. (Albeit as a Baptistic I do differ greatly on Church Traditions and in particular upon Infant &quot;baptism&quot; and that aspect of Covenentalism.)


I also greatly appreciated the DVD from Nicene Council:

Amazing Grace: The History &amp; Theology of Calvinism

http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=789433&amp;netp_id=441267&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;item_code=WW&amp;view=covers

BUT MOST OF ALL, I appreciated the Scriptures; reading them critically of my own opinion and reasoning; as I was a Pelagian, without linence who used my own &quot;decision&quot; to limit my God, so as to allow my OWN LORDSHIP, my OWN Kingship and MY OWN Mastership; that is untill my sin was made to be ssen as exceedingly sinful and the Holiness and Justice of YAHWEH was revealed by the Spirit through the teaching of the Scriptures.

We MUST always be able to be critical of our OWN position, challenge ourselves with teh Scriptures and then pray that He will submit us most willingly unto His command.

By the mercy from Christ Alone, your servant with the Gospel of grace, to those in bondage to sin&#039;s lusts and desires,
W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently went through R.C. Sproul&#8217;s: </p>
<p>What is Reformed Theology? (formerly titled Grace Unknown)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/easy_find?Ntk=keywords&amp;Ntt=what+is+reformed+theology&amp;action=Search&amp;N=0&amp;Ne=0&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;nav_search=1&amp;cms=1&amp;Go.x=21&amp;Go.y=21" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/easy_find?Ntk=keywords&amp;Ntt=what+is+reformed+theology&amp;action=Search&amp;N=0&amp;Ne=0&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;nav_search=1&amp;cms=1&amp;Go.x=21&amp;Go.y=21</a></p>
<p>Which I read in book form and I went through the DVD series (Audio also available); which was awesome from a Theological &amp; Historical point of view. (Albeit as a Baptistic I do differ greatly on Church Traditions and in particular upon Infant &#8220;baptism&#8221; and that aspect of Covenentalism.)</p>
<p>I also greatly appreciated the DVD from Nicene Council:</p>
<p>Amazing Grace: The History &amp; Theology of Calvinism</p>
<p><a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=789433&amp;netp_id=441267&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;item_code=WW&amp;view=covers" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=789433&amp;netp_id=441267&amp;event=ESRCN&amp;item_code=WW&amp;view=covers</a></p>
<p>BUT MOST OF ALL, I appreciated the Scriptures; reading them critically of my own opinion and reasoning; as I was a Pelagian, without linence who used my own &#8220;decision&#8221; to limit my God, so as to allow my OWN LORDSHIP, my OWN Kingship and MY OWN Mastership; that is untill my sin was made to be ssen as exceedingly sinful and the Holiness and Justice of YAHWEH was revealed by the Spirit through the teaching of the Scriptures.</p>
<p>We MUST always be able to be critical of our OWN position, challenge ourselves with teh Scriptures and then pray that He will submit us most willingly unto His command.</p>
<p>By the mercy from Christ Alone, your servant with the Gospel of grace, to those in bondage to sin&#8217;s lusts and desires,<br />
W</p>
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		<title>By: csheidler</title>
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		<dc:creator>csheidler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, I get so frustrated with Olson&#039;s book that it&#039;s hard for me to understand why so many people are so high on it--Carl Trueman recommends it, and now Phil.

Olson&#039;s entire book struck me as self-defeating and hypocritical, and I H-A-T-E-D his comparison of the atonement to vietnam war deserter amnesty.

Maybe it was just too over-hyped for me (an Arminian friend at an Assembly of God seminary touted it as the final word in the Calvinist debate)...I&#039;ll have to have another go of it sometime, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, I get so frustrated with Olson&#8217;s book that it&#8217;s hard for me to understand why so many people are so high on it&#8211;Carl Trueman recommends it, and now Phil.</p>
<p>Olson&#8217;s entire book struck me as self-defeating and hypocritical, and I H-A-T-E-D his comparison of the atonement to vietnam war deserter amnesty.</p>
<p>Maybe it was just too over-hyped for me (an Arminian friend at an Assembly of God seminary touted it as the final word in the Calvinist debate)&#8230;I&#8217;ll have to have another go of it sometime, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
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		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I said, “No, it’s just a really bad book, written by a guy who has no clue what he is talking about.”

Tha&#039;s what i like about Phil J., he don&#039;t sugar-coat it, in a wordl of a lot of sugar-coating going on.

What about George Bryson as an author who writes agaisnt Calvinism? I noticed on Hunt&#039;s website he is selling his book, and Doug Wilson endorses him. Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I said, “No, it’s just a really bad book, written by a guy who has no clue what he is talking about.”</p>
<p>Tha&#8217;s what i like about Phil J., he don&#8217;t sugar-coat it, in a wordl of a lot of sugar-coating going on.</p>
<p>What about George Bryson as an author who writes agaisnt Calvinism? I noticed on Hunt&#8217;s website he is selling his book, and Doug Wilson endorses him. Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link to the word document doesn&#039;t work, please update?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link to the word document doesn&#8217;t work, please update?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to the syllabus doc returns a 404. Could you doublecheck the link? Sounds like a handy resource!

Other than that, I&#039;m enjoying the series and looking forward to IV this afternoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to the syllabus doc returns a 404. Could you doublecheck the link? Sounds like a handy resource!</p>
<p>Other than that, I&#8217;m enjoying the series and looking forward to IV this afternoon.</p>
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