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	<title>Comments on: Dare to Be like Daniel</title>
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		<title>By: PeregrinJoe</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/10/22/dare-to-be-like-daniel/comment-page-1/#comment-244849</link>
		<dc:creator>PeregrinJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:

Understood.  Thanks at least for responding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:</p>
<p>Understood.  Thanks at least for responding.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/10/22/dare-to-be-like-daniel/comment-page-1/#comment-244184</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peregrin Joe

Not to criticize but let me suggest to you that speculation can be a dangerous thing because then we read into the text things that aren&#039;t there, as opposed to reading from the text what is there. When we read Daniel, his integrity shines forth from being tossed into the lions den to calling Nebuchadnezzar to repentance after interpreting Neb&#039;s dream. 

If I were going to speculate, I&#039;d speculate that Daniel is showing that he was not some spiritual superstar who alone displayed this type of godly character but at least three others did as well. 

Now we could assume that because Daniel alone was thrown into the lions den that the three others did not pray as Daniel. However, all of this is inconsistent with the book Daniel. 

Let us therefore read from the text rather than engage in needless speculation or endless geneologies.

John&#039;s gospel ends by telling us that the works of Jesus cannot be contained in one book... but we have the gospels and we know what we need to know. 

Deut. 29:29 tells us that the secret things belong to the Lord and the things revealed in His Law, the Scriptures, are for us and our children... 

Who knows what Daniels reasoning was for not commenting on himself? We cannot know. But we do know that Daniel was written by the Spirit of God through a man like Daniel to instruct us on the importance of integrity and to show that God is faithful... and to give us insight in the latter chapters to the end times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peregrin Joe</p>
<p>Not to criticize but let me suggest to you that speculation can be a dangerous thing because then we read into the text things that aren&#8217;t there, as opposed to reading from the text what is there. When we read Daniel, his integrity shines forth from being tossed into the lions den to calling Nebuchadnezzar to repentance after interpreting Neb&#8217;s dream. </p>
<p>If I were going to speculate, I&#8217;d speculate that Daniel is showing that he was not some spiritual superstar who alone displayed this type of godly character but at least three others did as well. </p>
<p>Now we could assume that because Daniel alone was thrown into the lions den that the three others did not pray as Daniel. However, all of this is inconsistent with the book Daniel. </p>
<p>Let us therefore read from the text rather than engage in needless speculation or endless geneologies.</p>
<p>John&#8217;s gospel ends by telling us that the works of Jesus cannot be contained in one book&#8230; but we have the gospels and we know what we need to know. </p>
<p>Deut. 29:29 tells us that the secret things belong to the Lord and the things revealed in His Law, the Scriptures, are for us and our children&#8230; </p>
<p>Who knows what Daniels reasoning was for not commenting on himself? We cannot know. But we do know that Daniel was written by the Spirit of God through a man like Daniel to instruct us on the importance of integrity and to show that God is faithful&#8230; and to give us insight in the latter chapters to the end times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I served as an elder in a LibProt church.  I didn&#039;t know at the time it was a LibProt church, nor was I aware of the &quot;women in ministry&quot; controversy aka complementarianism vs. egalitarianism.

Lo and behold, the issue came up.  I searched the Scriptures, I read the arguments, I talked with people on both sides of the issue, and I could not find biblical justification for the LibProt promotion for women elders.  In fact, the contrary.  There are clear biblical and normative injunctions against women serving as elders.

I was a &quot;Daniel&quot; exactly like the blog article said:  &quot;&lt;i&gt;you must draw lines where Scripture draws them.&lt;/i&gt; If the truth of God’s Word opposes the world’s wisdom on a certain issue, you must align yourself with God’s Word.&quot;

Price?  High.  False accusations, distortion, back-biting, rumor-mongering, gossiping, tongues of fire.  Eventually, I stepped down along with several other deacons and we all left the church.

Would I do it all over again?  Absolutely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I served as an elder in a LibProt church.  I didn&#8217;t know at the time it was a LibProt church, nor was I aware of the &#8220;women in ministry&#8221; controversy aka complementarianism vs. egalitarianism.</p>
<p>Lo and behold, the issue came up.  I searched the Scriptures, I read the arguments, I talked with people on both sides of the issue, and I could not find biblical justification for the LibProt promotion for women elders.  In fact, the contrary.  There are clear biblical and normative injunctions against women serving as elders.</p>
<p>I was a &#8220;Daniel&#8221; exactly like the blog article said:  &#8220;<i>you must draw lines where Scripture draws them.</i> If the truth of God’s Word opposes the world’s wisdom on a certain issue, you must align yourself with God’s Word.&#8221;</p>
<p>Price?  High.  False accusations, distortion, back-biting, rumor-mongering, gossiping, tongues of fire.  Eventually, I stepped down along with several other deacons and we all left the church.</p>
<p>Would I do it all over again?  Absolutely.</p>
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		<title>By: William du Plooy</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/10/22/dare-to-be-like-daniel/comment-page-1/#comment-242065</link>
		<dc:creator>William du Plooy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A much needed word of encouragement from the Word of the LORD. It is tough going up againts systems, powers and principalities, even within the Church where compromise on essential and clear salvation doctrines is very prevelant. May we be reminded that &quot;salvation is of the LORD&quot; and that &quot;He has become my salvation&quot; (cf Isaiah 12:2).

Soli deo Gloria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A much needed word of encouragement from the Word of the LORD. It is tough going up againts systems, powers and principalities, even within the Church where compromise on essential and clear salvation doctrines is very prevelant. May we be reminded that &#8220;salvation is of the LORD&#8221; and that &#8220;He has become my salvation&#8221; (cf Isaiah 12:2).</p>
<p>Soli deo Gloria.</p>
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		<title>By: WayneDawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>WayneDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post and most encouraging example of godliness in the middle of the enemy camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post and most encouraging example of godliness in the middle of the enemy camp.</p>
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		<title>By: PeregrinJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeregrinJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wondered why Daniel is not mentioned in Daniel 3 in the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.  They were his peers were they not?  Why is that the Bible does not mention Daniel as one who did not bow?  Is it because he succumbed to the pressure and bowed down to the golden image?  His stand against compromise that resulted in his being thrown into the lion&#039;s den took place long after this event did it not?

I don&#039;t offer this comment in an attempt to be argumentative or divisive, only to offer a thought...Perhaps sometimes a failure of integrity in the face of those who have kept theirs intact strengthens our own integrity when it is tested again.

Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wondered why Daniel is not mentioned in Daniel 3 in the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.  They were his peers were they not?  Why is that the Bible does not mention Daniel as one who did not bow?  Is it because he succumbed to the pressure and bowed down to the golden image?  His stand against compromise that resulted in his being thrown into the lion&#8217;s den took place long after this event did it not?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t offer this comment in an attempt to be argumentative or divisive, only to offer a thought&#8230;Perhaps sometimes a failure of integrity in the face of those who have kept theirs intact strengthens our own integrity when it is tested again.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! I will confess, repent and pray that I may seek the Lords help and borrow a little backbone to seek and live my life with integrity before God...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! I will confess, repent and pray that I may seek the Lords help and borrow a little backbone to seek and live my life with integrity before God&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Wymer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Wymer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this encouragement.  Faith may be the most important thing for the average Christian to have, and integrity may be the most important thing for anyone in the ministry.  I think our integrity is tested even more than our faith, or to put it another way our faith is tested through the testing of our integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this encouragement.  Faith may be the most important thing for the average Christian to have, and integrity may be the most important thing for anyone in the ministry.  I think our integrity is tested even more than our faith, or to put it another way our faith is tested through the testing of our integrity.</p>
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