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	<title>Comments on: The Gospel and Politics (Part 4)</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Pastor MacArthur for this. It has been an encouragement. With &quot;Christian&quot; radio programs begging us to continually spend our time calling our congressmen, it&#039;s sometimes hard to remember where we should be investing our time.

*IF* this country is to be rescued, it will only be through an obedient Church, returning to its first love and presenting the Gospel to a lost culture. 

Unfortunately, I&#039;ve seen comments on blogs that say that &quot;the gospel is not enough&quot;. . .in so many words. 

Brothers and Sisters, the Gospel is not only enough, it is all we have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Pastor MacArthur for this. It has been an encouragement. With &#8220;Christian&#8221; radio programs begging us to continually spend our time calling our congressmen, it&#8217;s sometimes hard to remember where we should be investing our time.</p>
<p>*IF* this country is to be rescued, it will only be through an obedient Church, returning to its first love and presenting the Gospel to a lost culture. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve seen comments on blogs that say that &#8220;the gospel is not enough&#8221;. . .in so many words. </p>
<p>Brothers and Sisters, the Gospel is not only enough, it is all we have!</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Kellam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis Kellam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, Dr, MacArthur!  The body of Christ, as a whole, is not in the business of politics; its business is the souls of men.  The politician appeals to men to win their votes.  The Christian appeals to men to win their souls to Christ.  Christ came to save that which was lost.  We must do the same.  The only way we can change the heart of a nation is through the &quot;foolishness of the preaching&quot; of Christ and Him crucified.

The Bible says, &quot;Bless is the nation whose God is the Lord.  Unrighteous men are not going to honor God by making godly laws.  Only righteous men will do that, therefore, we must be fishers of men.  

I am not saying individual believers can&#039;t be politicians.  What I am saying is that it is not the calling of the body of Christ as a whole.  The calling of the collective body is to win people to Christ (through word and deed) and to present them to Him at His coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said, Dr, MacArthur!  The body of Christ, as a whole, is not in the business of politics; its business is the souls of men.  The politician appeals to men to win their votes.  The Christian appeals to men to win their souls to Christ.  Christ came to save that which was lost.  We must do the same.  The only way we can change the heart of a nation is through the &#8220;foolishness of the preaching&#8221; of Christ and Him crucified.</p>
<p>The Bible says, &#8220;Bless is the nation whose God is the Lord.  Unrighteous men are not going to honor God by making godly laws.  Only righteous men will do that, therefore, we must be fishers of men.  </p>
<p>I am not saying individual believers can&#8217;t be politicians.  What I am saying is that it is not the calling of the body of Christ as a whole.  The calling of the collective body is to win people to Christ (through word and deed) and to present them to Him at His coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Jun M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jun M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If we do not evangelize the lost and make disciples of new converts, nothing else we do for people—no matter how beneficial it seems—is of any eternal consequence.&quot;

I can&#039;t convince myself to agree with the conclusion in the above quote. Everything a christian does to or for another human being has eternal consequences to either or both the other person and the christian himself. A christian will account before God for everything he or she did in life. The life of another human being may be influenced for all eternity by a christian person without the latter having necessarily preached the gospel to that other human being. For example, a born-again christian legislator may have caused passage of an education law that allowed a poor kid to go to college. That kid was led to Christ through a student ministry and was saved. Here we see how a non-evangelizing, non-preaching act of the christian legislator affected the life of the poor kid for all eternity.

The article may be addressed to full-time preachers, evangelists and church workers. But the dualist secular-spiritual approach to christian service always fail to capture the richness and potential &quot;revolutionary&quot; nature of Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we do not evangelize the lost and make disciples of new converts, nothing else we do for people—no matter how beneficial it seems—is of any eternal consequence.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t convince myself to agree with the conclusion in the above quote. Everything a christian does to or for another human being has eternal consequences to either or both the other person and the christian himself. A christian will account before God for everything he or she did in life. The life of another human being may be influenced for all eternity by a christian person without the latter having necessarily preached the gospel to that other human being. For example, a born-again christian legislator may have caused passage of an education law that allowed a poor kid to go to college. That kid was led to Christ through a student ministry and was saved. Here we see how a non-evangelizing, non-preaching act of the christian legislator affected the life of the poor kid for all eternity.</p>
<p>The article may be addressed to full-time preachers, evangelists and church workers. But the dualist secular-spiritual approach to christian service always fail to capture the richness and potential &#8220;revolutionary&#8221; nature of Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: John Townsley</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/06/13/the-gospel-and-politics-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-143917</link>
		<dc:creator>John Townsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What John MacArthur is saying is that an eternal perspective is our highest priority. The Gospel of salvation from the consequences of our sins through faith in Jesus Christ and His saving work is the only thing that affects where we will spend eternity. With that in mind, our highest priority can only be to preach the Gospel to the world. It is true that as more people are truly saved from their sins that this will affect how they live, but this is a secondary result to the primary purpose of the evangelization of the world. It is too easy to focus on what is here on earth and the difficulties we must endure here as Christians. Rather, we should do as Paul commands in Colossians 3:1-4. &quot; Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on the earth. For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.&quot; If we love unbelievers as Christ, then we must preach the Gospel to them so that for eternity we can all join with Christ &quot;in glory.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What John MacArthur is saying is that an eternal perspective is our highest priority. The Gospel of salvation from the consequences of our sins through faith in Jesus Christ and His saving work is the only thing that affects where we will spend eternity. With that in mind, our highest priority can only be to preach the Gospel to the world. It is true that as more people are truly saved from their sins that this will affect how they live, but this is a secondary result to the primary purpose of the evangelization of the world. It is too easy to focus on what is here on earth and the difficulties we must endure here as Christians. Rather, we should do as Paul commands in Colossians 3:1-4. &#8221; Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on the earth. For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.&#8221; If we love unbelievers as Christ, then we must preach the Gospel to them so that for eternity we can all join with Christ &#8220;in glory.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/06/13/the-gospel-and-politics-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-143863</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen! Very well said! The following statement summarized all 4 parts for me.

&quot;God is not calling us to wage a culture war that would seek to transform our countries into “Christian nations.” To devote all, or even most, of our time, energy, money, and strategy to putting a façade of morality on the world or over our governmental and political institutions is to badly misunderstand our roles as Christians in a spiritually lost world.&quot;

Its good to have the clear Biblical understanding on our Christian call and do accordingly lest we hear the Lord say, I don&#039;t know you when we see Him face to face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen! Very well said! The following statement summarized all 4 parts for me.</p>
<p>&#8220;God is not calling us to wage a culture war that would seek to transform our countries into “Christian nations.” To devote all, or even most, of our time, energy, money, and strategy to putting a façade of morality on the world or over our governmental and political institutions is to badly misunderstand our roles as Christians in a spiritually lost world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Its good to have the clear Biblical understanding on our Christian call and do accordingly lest we hear the Lord say, I don&#8217;t know you when we see Him face to face.</p>
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		<title>By: David McCrory</title>
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		<dc:creator>David McCrory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; I agree with Mr. MacArthur here. As the Gospel of Jesus Christ goes forth in the world, I believe, we as Christians should come to expect it&#039;s influence to impact the social and cultural norms of society. 

So, though we cannot transform a social or political climate apart from - or outside of - the proclamation of the Gospel message, the life-changing power of the Holy Spirit in the hearts and lives of born-again people should begin to impact their homes, families, workplaces, etc. 

This was much of the contention &amp; desires of the Puritans. They sought to live in such a manner that the Gospel touched every aspect of life. Kind of an all of Scripture for all of life mentality. As a result, the culture of Europe slowly began to change and the acceptance of God&#039;s Word, his truth, gradually permeated into most areas of society. 

I would agree it is useless to attempt an &quot;end around&quot;, where Christians try to instigate moral change exclusivly through social or political activism - and apart from God&#039;s ordained means of true reformation. Yet, I firmly believe, as Paul and the other apostles went forth into the world, preaching the Gospel of repentance and faith - they too firmly believed that the Lord&#039;s message of hope and salvation would have far reaching implications and would really and truly transform, not only the hearts and minds of individuals, but as the indivduals apply God&#039;s truth in their own lives - the power of God&#039;s Word would transform cultures and nations as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <i>think</i> I agree with Mr. MacArthur here. As the Gospel of Jesus Christ goes forth in the world, I believe, we as Christians should come to expect it&#8217;s influence to impact the social and cultural norms of society. </p>
<p>So, though we cannot transform a social or political climate apart from &#8211; or outside of &#8211; the proclamation of the Gospel message, the life-changing power of the Holy Spirit in the hearts and lives of born-again people should begin to impact their homes, families, workplaces, etc. </p>
<p>This was much of the contention &amp; desires of the Puritans. They sought to live in such a manner that the Gospel touched every aspect of life. Kind of an all of Scripture for all of life mentality. As a result, the culture of Europe slowly began to change and the acceptance of God&#8217;s Word, his truth, gradually permeated into most areas of society. </p>
<p>I would agree it is useless to attempt an &#8220;end around&#8221;, where Christians try to instigate moral change exclusivly through social or political activism &#8211; and apart from God&#8217;s ordained means of true reformation. Yet, I firmly believe, as Paul and the other apostles went forth into the world, preaching the Gospel of repentance and faith &#8211; they too firmly believed that the Lord&#8217;s message of hope and salvation would have far reaching implications and would really and truly transform, not only the hearts and minds of individuals, but as the indivduals apply God&#8217;s truth in their own lives &#8211; the power of God&#8217;s Word would transform cultures and nations as well.</p>
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