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	<title>Comments on: The Gospel and Politics (Part 3)</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donsands:

and John wrote (literally) that &quot;the whole world lies in the lap of the evil one&quot; in 1 John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donsands:</p>
<p>and John wrote (literally) that &#8220;the whole world lies in the lap of the evil one&#8221; in 1 John.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the English Reformation -- which few people today remember was Calvinist -- led directly to the establishment of America and 400 years of the civilizing influences of the British Empire and the spread of Christianity throughout the Third World.  Knowing the good that was to come, I like to re-read Foxe&#039;s Book of Martyrs to remind myself of the selfless martyrdom these Reformers faced first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the English Reformation &#8212; which few people today remember was Calvinist &#8212; led directly to the establishment of America and 400 years of the civilizing influences of the British Empire and the spread of Christianity throughout the Third World.  Knowing the good that was to come, I like to re-read Foxe&#8217;s Book of Martyrs to remind myself of the selfless martyrdom these Reformers faced first.</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
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		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I see believers being successful in all areas of the kingdom.&quot;

Amen. Believers make up the Body of Christ, of which He is the head, and so yes, as the Church prevails against the gates of hades, so individual Christians surely prevail.

In fact, the Church can go through terrible persecution, as it did through the Inquisition, and in the time of Nero, but still grew and succeeded in the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, who is the soul of the Body of Christ.

Steve, I appreciate you&#039;re challenging me. I&#039;m a little slow, and not that bright. I have a difficult time sharing my heart. I truly appreciate blogs like these, where I can read edifying posts, and then share my heart.

Have a great Lord&#039;s Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I see believers being successful in all areas of the kingdom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen. Believers make up the Body of Christ, of which He is the head, and so yes, as the Church prevails against the gates of hades, so individual Christians surely prevail.</p>
<p>In fact, the Church can go through terrible persecution, as it did through the Inquisition, and in the time of Nero, but still grew and succeeded in the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, who is the soul of the Body of Christ.</p>
<p>Steve, I appreciate you&#8217;re challenging me. I&#8217;m a little slow, and not that bright. I have a difficult time sharing my heart. I truly appreciate blogs like these, where I can read edifying posts, and then share my heart.</p>
<p>Have a great Lord&#8217;s Day.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, I think we might be using our terms differently here.  By institution, I mean &quot;church&quot; as an institution, &quot;family&quot; as a separate institution, &quot;state&quot;, etc.  In totality, Satan won&#039;t have control over family, state, education, vocation, etc., but not church.  By world, I mean the system of unbelieving thought, not the earth and all it contains.  Since the church is only a small part of the kingdom, I see believers being successful in all areas of the kingdom.  I hope clarifying this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I think we might be using our terms differently here.  By institution, I mean &#8220;church&#8221; as an institution, &#8220;family&#8221; as a separate institution, &#8220;state&#8221;, etc.  In totality, Satan won&#8217;t have control over family, state, education, vocation, etc., but not church.  By world, I mean the system of unbelieving thought, not the earth and all it contains.  Since the church is only a small part of the kingdom, I see believers being successful in all areas of the kingdom.  I hope clarifying this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
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		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jesus is Lord over all, so therefore the devil won’t prevail against any institution at all.&quot;

The Lord Jesus has total authority, and all power. Amen. I agree. But how you conclude, &quot;therefore the devil won&#039;t prevail against any institution&quot;, I don&#039;t understand.

The Mormon Church is a Church of Satan, where millions of people are under his rule, though they don&#039;t know it.
The Word of Faith and it&#039;s millions of followers. The Catholic Church is under his rule.
The Jews who reject Christ are under his rule, and in His domain.

Paul handed Hymenaeus and Alexander over to Satan, so that they may learn not to blaspheme.

They were in the Church, where Satan has no authority.  I&#039;m seeing this as the Apostle turning these two out into Satan&#039;s domain, the world.
Satan is the ruler of the world. He has been judged, and will shortly be crushed under our feet, and cast out, but until the Lord returns, this world is his--(though the world has always been God&#039;s, even before Christ died on the Cross, and rose from the dead), &quot;The earth is the Lord&#039;s, and the fullness thereof.&quot;. 

&quot;And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air&quot;, Eph. 2:1-2

The devil is God&#039;s devil. And God has judged him, and his time is short. But he is the prince of this world, and he prevails in all the institutions. But he shall never, ever, prevail against Christ, and His Church. In fact, The Church shall prevail against the gates of hell, and Christ shall build His Church, and nothing will stop Him. Not the devil, and all his host of demons, and all his lies in the world, and even when he, by stealth, comes into the Church, and clothes himself in sheep&#039;s clothing, he will be revealed for who he is, to the genuine sheep of the Good Shepherd. For His sheep will not listen to Satan and his ministers of righteousness, but we shall only hear the voice of our Lord and Savior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jesus is Lord over all, so therefore the devil won’t prevail against any institution at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Lord Jesus has total authority, and all power. Amen. I agree. But how you conclude, &#8220;therefore the devil won&#8217;t prevail against any institution&#8221;, I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>The Mormon Church is a Church of Satan, where millions of people are under his rule, though they don&#8217;t know it.<br />
The Word of Faith and it&#8217;s millions of followers. The Catholic Church is under his rule.<br />
The Jews who reject Christ are under his rule, and in His domain.</p>
<p>Paul handed Hymenaeus and Alexander over to Satan, so that they may learn not to blaspheme.</p>
<p>They were in the Church, where Satan has no authority.  I&#8217;m seeing this as the Apostle turning these two out into Satan&#8217;s domain, the world.<br />
Satan is the ruler of the world. He has been judged, and will shortly be crushed under our feet, and cast out, but until the Lord returns, this world is his&#8211;(though the world has always been God&#8217;s, even before Christ died on the Cross, and rose from the dead), &#8220;The earth is the Lord&#8217;s, and the fullness thereof.&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air&#8221;, Eph. 2:1-2</p>
<p>The devil is God&#8217;s devil. And God has judged him, and his time is short. But he is the prince of this world, and he prevails in all the institutions. But he shall never, ever, prevail against Christ, and His Church. In fact, The Church shall prevail against the gates of hell, and Christ shall build His Church, and nothing will stop Him. Not the devil, and all his host of demons, and all his lies in the world, and even when he, by stealth, comes into the Church, and clothes himself in sheep&#8217;s clothing, he will be revealed for who he is, to the genuine sheep of the Good Shepherd. For His sheep will not listen to Satan and his ministers of righteousness, but we shall only hear the voice of our Lord and Savior.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/06/12/the-gospel-and-politics-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-144542</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

Just because the devil is worshipped by those who are lost doesn&#039;t mean that he has domain over anything.  &quot;When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.&quot;  Col 2:15.  Jesus is Lord over all, so therefore the devil won&#039;t prevail against any institution at all.  All institutions will be victorious in Christ.  &quot;And this is the victory that has overcome the world - our faith.&quot;  1 John 5:4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>Just because the devil is worshipped by those who are lost doesn&#8217;t mean that he has domain over anything.  &#8220;When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.&#8221;  Col 2:15.  Jesus is Lord over all, so therefore the devil won&#8217;t prevail against any institution at all.  All institutions will be victorious in Christ.  &#8220;And this is the victory that has overcome the world &#8211; our faith.&#8221;  1 John 5:4</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
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		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I do. 

&quot;But if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them that believe not, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ who is the image of God, should shine unto them.&quot; 2 Cor. 4:3-4

The Church is the only safe haven in this world. All other religions, and all unbelievers have the devil as their father.
God is our Father, those who have come to trust Christ alone, and who love the Son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I do. </p>
<p>&#8220;But if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:<br />
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them that believe not, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ who is the image of God, should shine unto them.&#8221; 2 Cor. 4:3-4</p>
<p>The Church is the only safe haven in this world. All other religions, and all unbelievers have the devil as their father.<br />
God is our Father, those who have come to trust Christ alone, and who love the Son.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/06/12/the-gospel-and-politics-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-143455</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donsands wrote: &quot;...this world is the devil’s domain, and the gates of hell shall prevail against every institution, except the Church.&quot;

Huh?  Do you believe this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donsands wrote: &#8220;&#8230;this world is the devil’s domain, and the gates of hell shall prevail against every institution, except the Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh?  Do you believe this?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A certain amount of healthy and balanced concern with current trends in government and the community is acceptable, as long as we realize that that interest is not vital to our spiritual growth, our righteous testimony, or the advancement of the kingdom of Christ.&quot;

Very well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A certain amount of healthy and balanced concern with current trends in government and the community is acceptable, as long as we realize that that interest is not vital to our spiritual growth, our righteous testimony, or the advancement of the kingdom of Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very well put.</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
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		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the truest sense, the moral, social, and political state of a people is irrelevant to the advance of the gospel.&quot; -John MacArthur

Amen to that. Good words in this post. I hope the Church gets it some day, and then we may see another Great Awakening. By His grace I pray for it, and hope for it.
However, before a revival, methinks we need a Reformation, and a return to the deep things of God in His Word. Man is dead spiritually, and this world is the devil&#039;s domain, and the gates of hell shall prevail against every institution, except the Church. And the Lord shall crush Satan under His people&#039;s feet shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the truest sense, the moral, social, and political state of a people is irrelevant to the advance of the gospel.&#8221; -John MacArthur</p>
<p>Amen to that. Good words in this post. I hope the Church gets it some day, and then we may see another Great Awakening. By His grace I pray for it, and hope for it.<br />
However, before a revival, methinks we need a Reformation, and a return to the deep things of God in His Word. Man is dead spiritually, and this world is the devil&#8217;s domain, and the gates of hell shall prevail against every institution, except the Church. And the Lord shall crush Satan under His people&#8217;s feet shortly.</p>
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