No, the bible doesn’t teach a flat earth.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

I believe the bible no matter what man says. Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.

You said: ‘If the devil is deceiving so many scientists about the age of the earth, maybe we’re all wrong about the globe as well. If so, why do we accept anything from the scientific community?’ The bible says ‘But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived’. Why should the godless theories of men change my belief in God? Why should I wrest the scripture so I can be in agreement with men?

Is that really what you think? I guess since so many scientist and doctors agree on abortion, that is OK? Is biblical authority trumped by scientist? Do believe the bible only if you can confirm it by a secular source?

1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Have you ever been to a medical doctor? Ever travel in an automobile? Ever turned on a light switch? They all require faith in and acceptance of things developed by the “secular” scientific community.

It is NOT un-Biblical to believe that the One True God is a Supreme Being that created the earth billions of years ago. The Biblical facts are not incompatible with good science.

The leading Christian ID scientists have the strongest argument for Creation.

Rather than providing all the quotes from the various church fathers, I will refer you to an article in JETS Volume 32, No. 4, from December of 1989 entitled, “The Days of Creation: An Historical Survey of Interpretation,” by Jack P. Lewis.

Before Darwin came along, the battle was between 6/24 days and an instantaneous creation. As Lewis concludes, “Our survey shows that Bible readers have never been of one mind concerning the nature of the days of Genesis.”

Certainly throughout church history the 6/24 view has been dominant. However, it is ahistorical to concluded that all non-6/24 views are products of 19th century liberal scholarship.

Note to James: That’s what reconstruction refers to; it’s not the hermeneutics. Good query. Thanks.

Don’t know if you’ll see this; I don’t have time to visit the site as often as I would enjoy, so the reply is late.

I had the same thought about Romans 5:12 at first, but the text is specific that sin and death entered the world (eis ton kosmon eiselthen), “into the world it entered.” The next phrase says “and so death spread to all men.” I can’t see how the verse can allow for death to be in the world in any sense prior to Adam’s sin.

In other words, it says two things: 1) Death entered the world through Adam’s sin, and 2) Death spread to all men through Adam’s sin.

Have a great Lord’s Day.
Jim

Your caricature of Christianity is totally wrong and I’ll try to shed some light and answer your criticisms.

1) First, when Christians say they deny evolution they mean macroevolution. No one denies Microevolution. Medicines and Vaccinations are not predicated on macroevolution, they are a result of observable mircoevolution. (This is my field btw)

2)”.., if not for the simple fact that it is impossible to live according to a literal Bible and not end up in prison or deathly ill from a sickness only treatable by medicine.”

Perhaps you are mistaking us for Jehovah’s Witnesses? Yes, if we live in N. Korea or China we may be presecuted for our beliefs, but by no means are we not allowed to use medicine. My goodness, the Gospel writer Luke was a physician! Btw Paul, even indicates Timothy to drink wine to help ease his stomach pain and the Good Samaritan washed up and bandaged the injured man on the road. I hope this clear tings up.

3. “The modern Christian is full of contradictions to make them more easily blend into society. They have homes, watch television, and visit fancy churches (with bathrooms, no less!)

The literal Bible tells us to destroy unbelievers, to toss away material wealth, and leave all up to prayer and faith.”

Hmmm… I have no idea where this is coming from, perhaps you’re mistaking us for another sect of Christianity?

Here is what Paul says in 1 Timothy 6

“17Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.

18Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,

19storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed. ”

Here it says nothing of selling everything you have an live in utter poverty does it?

Also, in another place it tells people to work and not just live on prayer and faith:

2 Thessalonians 3
“8nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you;

9not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you, so that you would follow our example.

10For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.”

Here Paul clearly is telling ppl not only did he work hard, but that other ppl must work as well – No Freeloading!

If you have any other questions you should ask someone knowledgeable about the Christian faith (or come to my blog) and perhaps you’ll find that there is more to it than you think…

“MacArthur’s article yesterday gave scriptural examples of Moses, Jesus, Paul referring to a literal 6 day creation. Add that up to the fact that every notable theologian until the late 1800’s intepreted scripture the same way. If that is wrong, then the clarity of scripture is under attack.”

I am assuming that Augustine, Clement of Alexandria, Anselm, Peter Lombard, and Thomas Aquinas, therefore cannot be considered notable theologians prior to the late 1800’s because not one of them was a believer in 6/24 days.