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		<title>By: jw4Christ</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/09/29/pulpit-picks-14/comment-page-1/#comment-64717</link>
		<dc:creator>jw4Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all just wanted to let you know that Jesus loves you.  God is a god of grace, mercy, and love.  I dont like to get wrapped up in peoples ideas about issues.  what i do want to tell you is simply that Jesus loves you and that regaurdless of wether your married or not.  That does not specify you in any category except being unmarried.  God created women just as he created men.  Women are vital to the existence of life on this earth just as men are.  The word of God refers to women as the weaker vessel.  That is not refering to the function of the brain.  Mainly physical strengths which are plainly seen.  So dont let anyone put you in a category which they desire.  Instead become a child of the King, and find out what he has to say about you.  God Bless You and remember Jesus Is LORD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all just wanted to let you know that Jesus loves you.  God is a god of grace, mercy, and love.  I dont like to get wrapped up in peoples ideas about issues.  what i do want to tell you is simply that Jesus loves you and that regaurdless of wether your married or not.  That does not specify you in any category except being unmarried.  God created women just as he created men.  Women are vital to the existence of life on this earth just as men are.  The word of God refers to women as the weaker vessel.  That is not refering to the function of the brain.  Mainly physical strengths which are plainly seen.  So dont let anyone put you in a category which they desire.  Instead become a child of the King, and find out what he has to say about you.  God Bless You and remember Jesus Is LORD!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy H.</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/09/29/pulpit-picks-14/comment-page-1/#comment-64652</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate,

I think the scripture that pretty much sums it up for all of us, including men, women and children, is Jeremiah 17:9.....&quot;the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it&quot;? .....and most of us know this scripture by heart and yet it is true for all of us.

Perhaps I tend to be defensive at times because I have gotten this (feminism) response from many christian men whenever I have left comments on different blogs and discussion forums that I get real tired of it. And even at different churches I have attended in the past, where some men hold this attitude that a women cannot speak, but they take it to extremes and unfortunately we see this problem even in doctrines and theologies being taught. I try to strive for balance in my life and that includes balance in doctrine.
The Bible does not say that a women can not speak, it only says that a women must not usurp the role of a man. Just because a women speaks does not mean that she is plotting to usurp a man. She is simply expressing her mind just like men do. They say that women speak more than men, well obviously that is not the case on some blogs and discussion forums.

The reason why I am tired of blogging is because I am constantly misunderstood and I don&#039;t have the energy to explain myself over and over and I have been leaving comments here and at different related blogs for about a year now and I think people should pretty much &quot;know&quot; me by now, (for the sake of my Christian testimony), even though they have never met me face to face. I have always tried to make my comments direct and succinct at least from my perspective. But how others perceive it, I guess, it out of my hands.




Grace and Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate,</p>
<p>I think the scripture that pretty much sums it up for all of us, including men, women and children, is Jeremiah 17:9&#8230;..&#8221;the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it&#8221;? &#8230;..and most of us know this scripture by heart and yet it is true for all of us.</p>
<p>Perhaps I tend to be defensive at times because I have gotten this (feminism) response from many christian men whenever I have left comments on different blogs and discussion forums that I get real tired of it. And even at different churches I have attended in the past, where some men hold this attitude that a women cannot speak, but they take it to extremes and unfortunately we see this problem even in doctrines and theologies being taught. I try to strive for balance in my life and that includes balance in doctrine.<br />
The Bible does not say that a women can not speak, it only says that a women must not usurp the role of a man. Just because a women speaks does not mean that she is plotting to usurp a man. She is simply expressing her mind just like men do. They say that women speak more than men, well obviously that is not the case on some blogs and discussion forums.</p>
<p>The reason why I am tired of blogging is because I am constantly misunderstood and I don&#8217;t have the energy to explain myself over and over and I have been leaving comments here and at different related blogs for about a year now and I think people should pretty much &#8220;know&#8221; me by now, (for the sake of my Christian testimony), even though they have never met me face to face. I have always tried to make my comments direct and succinct at least from my perspective. But how others perceive it, I guess, it out of my hands.</p>
<p>Grace and Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/09/29/pulpit-picks-14/comment-page-1/#comment-62775</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy H.,

 I&#039;m not sure if you are still reading the comments here or not, but I thought I would throw out a couple of things to think about.

I assume your comments are in respose to the article that was on the CBMW website entitled &quot;Confessions of a Recovering Feminist&quot;. I don&#039;t believe the point of the article was to try to put everyone into a box or stick a label on each and every person. The reason for the article was to expose the true heart of feminism from the perspective of one who has struggled and still struggles with it. As I understand the article, it is not doing things listed on a &quot;feminist list&quot; that qualifies you as a feminist. Applying that label only comes from a heart that is pursuing the ideals of feminism. These ideals are anti-God and anti-gospel. They flow from a heart that is in rebellion against Christ and His created order. 

Here is a quote from the article that I think expresses well the main point of the author.

&quot;Feminism is in the core of our hearts apart from the saving work of the shed blood of Christ, and not simply because we are militant against male authority, but primarily because we are opposed to the greatest authority of all—our Creator. The feminist is not some abstract “out there” woman. She is staring right at us every morning when we put on our make-up.&quot;

Thanks for your interaction on this blog and I hope this helps to clear things up a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy H.,</p>
<p> I&#8217;m not sure if you are still reading the comments here or not, but I thought I would throw out a couple of things to think about.</p>
<p>I assume your comments are in respose to the article that was on the CBMW website entitled &#8220;Confessions of a Recovering Feminist&#8221;. I don&#8217;t believe the point of the article was to try to put everyone into a box or stick a label on each and every person. The reason for the article was to expose the true heart of feminism from the perspective of one who has struggled and still struggles with it. As I understand the article, it is not doing things listed on a &#8220;feminist list&#8221; that qualifies you as a feminist. Applying that label only comes from a heart that is pursuing the ideals of feminism. These ideals are anti-God and anti-gospel. They flow from a heart that is in rebellion against Christ and His created order. </p>
<p>Here is a quote from the article that I think expresses well the main point of the author.</p>
<p>&#8220;Feminism is in the core of our hearts apart from the saving work of the shed blood of Christ, and not simply because we are militant against male authority, but primarily because we are opposed to the greatest authority of all—our Creator. The feminist is not some abstract “out there” woman. She is staring right at us every morning when we put on our make-up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for your interaction on this blog and I hope this helps to clear things up a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy H.</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/09/29/pulpit-picks-14/comment-page-1/#comment-62291</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well guys, maybe when I am three score and ten I will be able to articulate my point a little better.


Please don&#039;t take offense, my comment was not directed at any man in particular only to the topic of the thread which is about blogging and feminism. But lets be balanced here and say that there are clearly both feminist (women) and chauvinist (men).


The feminist woman is the one who wants to preach in a physical pulpit in the church and wants to lord over her husband. 

The Chauvinist man is the one who won&#039;t allow a women to have an opinion or speak her mind, lest she be showing a lack of submission.

Signing off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well guys, maybe when I am three score and ten I will be able to articulate my point a little better.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t take offense, my comment was not directed at any man in particular only to the topic of the thread which is about blogging and feminism. But lets be balanced here and say that there are clearly both feminist (women) and chauvinist (men).</p>
<p>The feminist woman is the one who wants to preach in a physical pulpit in the church and wants to lord over her husband. </p>
<p>The Chauvinist man is the one who won&#8217;t allow a women to have an opinion or speak her mind, lest she be showing a lack of submission.</p>
<p>Signing off!</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/09/29/pulpit-picks-14/comment-page-1/#comment-62033</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy asks, &lt;i&gt;Am I a feminist because I didn’t let the man hold the door for me, when most men DON’T hold doors in a chivalrous way unless of course she is pretty and attractive (for that swells his ego)?&lt;/i&gt; Well, Cindy, what am I supposed to think when I hold the door for you (as I do for women of all sizes, ages, and shapes ... I also hold doors for men ... hmm does that make me gay?) and you refuse to accept my proffered courtesy? I am sorry, but when I encounter a woman who act that way, I do presume that this a woman with a feminist agenda. Actually, 20 years ago it was (sadly) common to encounter women who refused such courtesies. Thankfully, I am finding it more and more common that women accept the courtesy with a smile and &quot;thank you.&quot; The social exchange is pleasant for both of us, whether she is gorgeous, or 65 years old, average looking, and obese. I am sorry that you lose out on that moment of pleasure, and deprive another of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy asks, <i>Am I a feminist because I didn’t let the man hold the door for me, when most men DON’T hold doors in a chivalrous way unless of course she is pretty and attractive (for that swells his ego)?</i> Well, Cindy, what am I supposed to think when I hold the door for you (as I do for women of all sizes, ages, and shapes &#8230; I also hold doors for men &#8230; hmm does that make me gay?) and you refuse to accept my proffered courtesy? I am sorry, but when I encounter a woman who act that way, I do presume that this a woman with a feminist agenda. Actually, 20 years ago it was (sadly) common to encounter women who refused such courtesies. Thankfully, I am finding it more and more common that women accept the courtesy with a smile and &#8220;thank you.&#8221; The social exchange is pleasant for both of us, whether she is gorgeous, or 65 years old, average looking, and obese. I am sorry that you lose out on that moment of pleasure, and deprive another of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally agree with you Cindy H, but I don&#039;t think anyone would label you a feminist if you don&#039;t get married.

You seem to be the exception to the rule and obviously the one&#039;s who are being criticized are not ppl like you but ones who say:

&quot;&#039;get your degree first and live your life,&#039; acting as if marriage and children was the final stamp on the end of your life as you know it. &quot;

Most of the time when Christian&#039;s talk about feminists its about people who are sacrificing their families at to promote their careers.  It sounds like you don&#039;t fit any of these categories, so why fight the people who cry out against it?  

The point being, I think your tirade is misplaced on this blog, as if anyone on this blog were to disagree with you.  

If you don&#039;t like being &quot;labeled&quot; a feminist you should most def. not characterize ppl over here as chauvinists who hold none of the views you portray us of having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally agree with you Cindy H, but I don&#8217;t think anyone would label you a feminist if you don&#8217;t get married.</p>
<p>You seem to be the exception to the rule and obviously the one&#8217;s who are being criticized are not ppl like you but ones who say:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;get your degree first and live your life,&#8217; acting as if marriage and children was the final stamp on the end of your life as you know it. &#8221;</p>
<p>Most of the time when Christian&#8217;s talk about feminists its about people who are sacrificing their families at to promote their careers.  It sounds like you don&#8217;t fit any of these categories, so why fight the people who cry out against it?  </p>
<p>The point being, I think your tirade is misplaced on this blog, as if anyone on this blog were to disagree with you.  </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like being &#8220;labeled&#8221; a feminist you should most def. not characterize ppl over here as chauvinists who hold none of the views you portray us of having.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy H.</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/09/29/pulpit-picks-14/comment-page-1/#comment-61965</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that a single woman who has CHOSEN (because God gives us choice when it comes to marriage......it is not a command) NOT to get married is somehow labeled a feminist?

Am I a feminist because I didn&#039;t let the man hold the door for me, when most men DON&#039;T hold doors in a chivalrous way unless of course she is pretty and attractive (for that swells his ego)? Am I a feminist because I refuse to submit or respect a man who first does not know how to respect a woman by calling her stupid or being sarcastic and condesending toward her? Am I a feminist because I express my opinions and use my mind to decide for myself with no man (including the pastor) influencing my decisions (except God)? And yes, sometimes of course God will use the Pastor, BUT the pastor can be wrong........he&#039;s not infallible like the pope you know.

It&#039;s funny that there is so much emphasis put on women to be anti-feminist, when there have been just way too many Christian men who have such disdain for women and that is shown by the lucidity of their actions. 

Labels. That is all people do...........everything has a label........I mean, how else can you make an identification but by a label. But to label someone is nothing but a brainless, feeble, impatient solution to &quot;know&quot; someone. That is why I despise &quot;labels&quot;........you can&#039;t possibly know someone by a &quot;label(s)&quot;.


I am done blogging, but not because I have somehow overnight become &quot;a woman by God&#039;s design&quot;, but rather because I am tired of the usual nasty remarks and angry responses (and I have left comments in alot of different places) because my objective point somehow gets misconstrued into all things subjective. So that is why it is a waste of time, especially if one is just blogging without thought or consequence. Furthermore I have found that blogging is very &quot;clickish&quot;, just like high school mentality or small town mentality. I will say however, that on the flip side, there can be very productive results from blogging as long as everyone stays objective and doesn&#039;t get wrapped up in the pettiness. 

But that&#039;s why I like to remain on the outside.........you have a much better perspective!

One more thing I want to add.........just because I have chosen a &quot;career&quot; over marriage, does not make me a &quot;feminist&quot; with a capital L for label. My &quot;career&quot; hardly pays the bills but is a very noble profession and a very high calling from God and that is to take care of the lame, feeble and weak. I may not be a wife or a mother but I take care of elderly people in nursing homes and in their own homes and those with mental disabilities such as alzheimers and that is the duty of a Christian mandated by God to care for the weak and the poor because He cares deeply for them. So by that &quot;standard&quot;, I should be labeled an &quot;anti-feminist&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that a single woman who has CHOSEN (because God gives us choice when it comes to marriage&#8230;&#8230;it is not a command) NOT to get married is somehow labeled a feminist?</p>
<p>Am I a feminist because I didn&#8217;t let the man hold the door for me, when most men DON&#8217;T hold doors in a chivalrous way unless of course she is pretty and attractive (for that swells his ego)? Am I a feminist because I refuse to submit or respect a man who first does not know how to respect a woman by calling her stupid or being sarcastic and condesending toward her? Am I a feminist because I express my opinions and use my mind to decide for myself with no man (including the pastor) influencing my decisions (except God)? And yes, sometimes of course God will use the Pastor, BUT the pastor can be wrong&#8230;&#8230;..he&#8217;s not infallible like the pope you know.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that there is so much emphasis put on women to be anti-feminist, when there have been just way too many Christian men who have such disdain for women and that is shown by the lucidity of their actions. </p>
<p>Labels. That is all people do&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..everything has a label&#8230;&#8230;..I mean, how else can you make an identification but by a label. But to label someone is nothing but a brainless, feeble, impatient solution to &#8220;know&#8221; someone. That is why I despise &#8220;labels&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..you can&#8217;t possibly know someone by a &#8220;label(s)&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am done blogging, but not because I have somehow overnight become &#8220;a woman by God&#8217;s design&#8221;, but rather because I am tired of the usual nasty remarks and angry responses (and I have left comments in alot of different places) because my objective point somehow gets misconstrued into all things subjective. So that is why it is a waste of time, especially if one is just blogging without thought or consequence. Furthermore I have found that blogging is very &#8220;clickish&#8221;, just like high school mentality or small town mentality. I will say however, that on the flip side, there can be very productive results from blogging as long as everyone stays objective and doesn&#8217;t get wrapped up in the pettiness. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s why I like to remain on the outside&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you have a much better perspective!</p>
<p>One more thing I want to add&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;just because I have chosen a &#8220;career&#8221; over marriage, does not make me a &#8220;feminist&#8221; with a capital L for label. My &#8220;career&#8221; hardly pays the bills but is a very noble profession and a very high calling from God and that is to take care of the lame, feeble and weak. I may not be a wife or a mother but I take care of elderly people in nursing homes and in their own homes and those with mental disabilities such as alzheimers and that is the duty of a Christian mandated by God to care for the weak and the poor because He cares deeply for them. So by that &#8220;standard&#8221;, I should be labeled an &#8220;anti-feminist&#8221;.</p>
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