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		<title>By: Brother James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother James</dc:creator>
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		<description>Peace of Christ.

    I just read your article about the Sabbath, and let me tell you this brother....I ignored it for over 50 years due to my involment with the catholic church and protestant denominations....and!!! I defecte and submited myself to Jesus, looking for an answer regarding the Sabbath-Day.....and!!! there is no Eternal Life without the Sabbath-Day...a Chruch without the Sabbath-Day is like a Christ without the cross...of no value for humans....Your article is awfuly, incorrect for Christianity, real good for christendom.

I will answer every scripture you have in your article tomorrow...

   God Bless..............Brother James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace of Christ.</p>
<p>    I just read your article about the Sabbath, and let me tell you this brother&#8230;.I ignored it for over 50 years due to my involment with the catholic church and protestant denominations&#8230;.and!!! I defecte and submited myself to Jesus, looking for an answer regarding the Sabbath-Day&#8230;..and!!! there is no Eternal Life without the Sabbath-Day&#8230;a Chruch without the Sabbath-Day is like a Christ without the cross&#8230;of no value for humans&#8230;.Your article is awfuly, incorrect for Christianity, real good for christendom.</p>
<p>I will answer every scripture you have in your article tomorrow&#8230;</p>
<p>   God Bless&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Brother James</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why there is such a controversy around the true sabbath - the seventh day, is due to the spiritual warfare that Christians are in. It is the goal of the devil or either hide or pervert the Truth. The seventh day is a creation institution (Gen 2:2-3). God blessed and sanctified this day. Exodus 16:23 ...rest of the holy Sabbath unto the Lord, Exodus 20:8 remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Therefore, we have a holy day each week, since we as Christian should come together to worship, should not we come together on this holy day - sabbath and not on Sunday - the first day i.e. one of the six working days. Notice the majority of Christians and the rest of the world are working on the holy day of rest and are trying to rest on the first day of work (Once again the Devil is liar). Many Christians are wresting the scriptures to their own damnation. Letters of Paul have to be viewed in context. Paul knew the exact condition or situations he was addressing, Christians today can only speculate from the overall letter itself. Therefore, Colossian 2:16-17 and Galatians 4:10-11 need to be looked at with prayer and much study. For example, let no man judge you, is interpreted by many to mean let no one tell you which day is the sabbath, or how to keep the sabbath etc. Notice also that the Pharisees judged Christ (for healing) on many occasions and also the apostles (for gathering and eating) on how they kept the sabbath. However, the Pharisees were wrong in all cases.  Now Galatians 4:10 is even more ambiguous. The passage does not say that “days” included the seventh day sabbath. However, some have speculated that the seventh day sabbath was included. What we do know is that Gentiles believers were taught in the synagogues on Sabbath (Acts 15:21, Acts 13:14&amp;44, and Acts 18:4). Also, think about this, the apostle Paul would have missed an excellent opportunity to tell the Gentiles (Acts 13:44 … the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath) that the new sabbath was actually tomorrow i.e. the first day or Sunday. Finally, Paul was appointed to be a minister unto the Gentiles (Acts 9:15-16,Acts 26:17) and as his manner was, he went to the synagogues and taught on the sabbath days. Paul said that the Gentiles were to follow him as he followed Christ (1 Co 4:16, 1 Co 11:1, and Php 3:17). The actions of many Christians today in regards to the Seventh day sabbath now has the apostle Paul saying, do what I say (i.e. according to their interpretation – the Seventh day sabbath is no longer binding because we are under grace) and not what I do. Any parent knows that this approach never works in the rearing of children. The Lord said, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. So, we as Christians need to continually pray for each other, whilst we all continue to follow Jesus Christ and Paul as our examples. I find it strange that many Gentile believers have never followed the Apostle Paul&#039;s command, but they are quick to say that they are Gentiles who are not under the law or that the law was Jews. Actions do speak louder than words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why there is such a controversy around the true sabbath &#8211; the seventh day, is due to the spiritual warfare that Christians are in. It is the goal of the devil or either hide or pervert the Truth. The seventh day is a creation institution (Gen 2:2-3). God blessed and sanctified this day. Exodus 16:23 &#8230;rest of the holy Sabbath unto the Lord, Exodus 20:8 remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Therefore, we have a holy day each week, since we as Christian should come together to worship, should not we come together on this holy day &#8211; sabbath and not on Sunday &#8211; the first day i.e. one of the six working days. Notice the majority of Christians and the rest of the world are working on the holy day of rest and are trying to rest on the first day of work (Once again the Devil is liar). Many Christians are wresting the scriptures to their own damnation. Letters of Paul have to be viewed in context. Paul knew the exact condition or situations he was addressing, Christians today can only speculate from the overall letter itself. Therefore, Colossian 2:16-17 and Galatians 4:10-11 need to be looked at with prayer and much study. For example, let no man judge you, is interpreted by many to mean let no one tell you which day is the sabbath, or how to keep the sabbath etc. Notice also that the Pharisees judged Christ (for healing) on many occasions and also the apostles (for gathering and eating) on how they kept the sabbath. However, the Pharisees were wrong in all cases.  Now Galatians 4:10 is even more ambiguous. The passage does not say that “days” included the seventh day sabbath. However, some have speculated that the seventh day sabbath was included. What we do know is that Gentiles believers were taught in the synagogues on Sabbath (Acts 15:21, Acts 13:14&amp;44, and Acts 18:4). Also, think about this, the apostle Paul would have missed an excellent opportunity to tell the Gentiles (Acts 13:44 … the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath) that the new sabbath was actually tomorrow i.e. the first day or Sunday. Finally, Paul was appointed to be a minister unto the Gentiles (Acts 9:15-16,Acts 26:17) and as his manner was, he went to the synagogues and taught on the sabbath days. Paul said that the Gentiles were to follow him as he followed Christ (1 Co 4:16, 1 Co 11:1, and Php 3:17). The actions of many Christians today in regards to the Seventh day sabbath now has the apostle Paul saying, do what I say (i.e. according to their interpretation – the Seventh day sabbath is no longer binding because we are under grace) and not what I do. Any parent knows that this approach never works in the rearing of children. The Lord said, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. So, we as Christians need to continually pray for each other, whilst we all continue to follow Jesus Christ and Paul as our examples. I find it strange that many Gentile believers have never followed the Apostle Paul&#8217;s command, but they are quick to say that they are Gentiles who are not under the law or that the law was Jews. Actions do speak louder than words.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just wondering if you answered David&#039;s questions because I sure would like to know the answers.. they were very good points</description>
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		<title>By: Miguel Bardowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Bardowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a sunday goer but i have been reading the bible more and more and understanding it. Although in the Old Testament regulations governing Sabbath no longer exists and have passed away- sacrificial system, the Levitical priesthood, and all other aspects of Moses. Those passed away when Jesus died for us but the Ten Commandments have no passed just because he died those laws are still in act and heaven and earth shall pass before the laws fall. Then we can commit murder if we wanted then and such if the laws as passed. We have grace by God but that does not mean we stop following the laws. The laws are gods character and we should model him. You can get rid of the sabbath day but want to keep the other holy, why is that? If you do not follow one of the commandments then you break all.

Moses law where ended when Jesus died for us but Gods Law The Teb Commandments are still in effect and will always be in effect even in heaven, although we will not sin, the laws still stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a sunday goer but i have been reading the bible more and more and understanding it. Although in the Old Testament regulations governing Sabbath no longer exists and have passed away- sacrificial system, the Levitical priesthood, and all other aspects of Moses. Those passed away when Jesus died for us but the Ten Commandments have no passed just because he died those laws are still in act and heaven and earth shall pass before the laws fall. Then we can commit murder if we wanted then and such if the laws as passed. We have grace by God but that does not mean we stop following the laws. The laws are gods character and we should model him. You can get rid of the sabbath day but want to keep the other holy, why is that? If you do not follow one of the commandments then you break all.</p>
<p>Moses law where ended when Jesus died for us but Gods Law The Teb Commandments are still in effect and will always be in effect even in heaven, although we will not sin, the laws still stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wasn&#039;t written specifically about the Sabbath but the wider matter of how the Decalogue applies to Christians. Hope it is some help.

Method for resolving moral controversy where the scholars are on both sides




-	Identify the original teachings 
   

Eg Martin Luther “The Liberty of a Christian man”

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/cclib-2.html

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/cclib-3.html

and Samuel Bolton “A Treatise wherein the rights of the law are vindicated, the liberties of grace maintained”

http://www.the-highway.com/truefreedom_Bolton.html

http://www.the-highway.com/articleFeb00.html




-	Prayerfully examine both teachings in the light of God’s Word 


prepare Scripture indices for key teaching areas and compare overlaps

identify key passages from the above and consider other related passages (eg. Genesis 26:5, [Leviticus 23:32 ..Galatians 4:10 ..Colossians 2:16], Rev 1:10)

compare Scripture with Scripture in context (eg. The context for Romans 14 is the whole Bible, Paul’s letters to the Churches, Paul’s letter to the Church in Rome, Romans 3:31 and Romans 7:12)



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Comments
-	Compare translations for the meaning(s) of Galatians 2:17  (The NIV is different to the NASB)

-	Martin Luther’s writings on “The Liberty of a Christian man” were over 100 years before those of Samuel Boulton ( a member of the Westminster Assembly ) on “A Treatise wherein the rights of the law are vindicated, the liberties of grace maintained”.
 
Some of my own opinions
-	As I understand it, Galatians 2:16 probably refers to the weekly Sabbath (cf. 2 Kings 4:23, 1 Chronicles 23:31) as which specific day of the week is ceremonial ie. The morality consists in the ‘one-dayedness in seven’. Leaders are to assign within their responsibility, mainly by way of example and with gentleness, mercy and graciousness. Christian leaders generally regard this as Sunday but whichever day is observed it has the significance of ‘the Lord’s Day’ and ‘first day of the week’.

-	Leviticus 23:32 refers to the Day of Atonement as a sabbath. This was fulfilled  with the coming of Jesus Christ.
 
-	We would not expect Paul to say in one of his letters that “the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good” and in another letter to say or imply that it doesn’t matter about keeping the Sabbath day holy anymore. Depending on the chronological sequence of his letters, Romans may have been written, in part, to correct misunderstandings on the continuity of the Decalogue.

-	The pastoral situation in the early Church concerning the Sabbath was probably extremely delicate for a number of reasons. Our Lord’s own teaching to release it from Pharisaic observances, His glorious resurrection on the first day of the week and the composition of the early Churches with believers from both Jewish and Gentile backgrounds would be likely to have made the matter of Sabbath observance very complex.

-	Judeo-Christian influences may be the reason we have come to think of and have a weekend of two days in modern (western?) society.

-	Humanism being re-inforced through UNHR influences is posing many complex considerations for the Church.

-	God greatly used Martin Luther in the recovery of the vital Biblical teaching of Justification by Faith. This does not necessarily mean, however, that everything he wrote is correct. Only God’s Word is infallible (1 Peter1:20-21)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wasn&#8217;t written specifically about the Sabbath but the wider matter of how the Decalogue applies to Christians. Hope it is some help.</p>
<p>Method for resolving moral controversy where the scholars are on both sides</p>
<p>-	Identify the original teachings </p>
<p>Eg Martin Luther “The Liberty of a Christian man”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/cclib-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/cclib-2.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/cclib-3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/cclib-3.html</a></p>
<p>and Samuel Bolton “A Treatise wherein the rights of the law are vindicated, the liberties of grace maintained”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-highway.com/truefreedom_Bolton.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-highway.com/truefreedom_Bolton.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-highway.com/articleFeb00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-highway.com/articleFeb00.html</a></p>
<p>-	Prayerfully examine both teachings in the light of God’s Word </p>
<p>prepare Scripture indices for key teaching areas and compare overlaps</p>
<p>identify key passages from the above and consider other related passages (eg. Genesis 26:5, [Leviticus 23:32 ..Galatians 4:10 ..Colossians 2:16], Rev 1:10)</p>
<p>compare Scripture with Scripture in context (eg. The context for Romans 14 is the whole Bible, Paul’s letters to the Churches, Paul’s letter to the Church in Rome, Romans 3:31 and Romans 7:12)</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Comments<br />
-	Compare translations for the meaning(s) of Galatians 2:17  (The NIV is different to the NASB)</p>
<p>-	Martin Luther’s writings on “The Liberty of a Christian man” were over 100 years before those of Samuel Boulton ( a member of the Westminster Assembly ) on “A Treatise wherein the rights of the law are vindicated, the liberties of grace maintained”.</p>
<p>Some of my own opinions<br />
-	As I understand it, Galatians 2:16 probably refers to the weekly Sabbath (cf. 2 Kings 4:23, 1 Chronicles 23:31) as which specific day of the week is ceremonial ie. The morality consists in the ‘one-dayedness in seven’. Leaders are to assign within their responsibility, mainly by way of example and with gentleness, mercy and graciousness. Christian leaders generally regard this as Sunday but whichever day is observed it has the significance of ‘the Lord’s Day’ and ‘first day of the week’.</p>
<p>-	Leviticus 23:32 refers to the Day of Atonement as a sabbath. This was fulfilled  with the coming of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>-	We would not expect Paul to say in one of his letters that “the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good” and in another letter to say or imply that it doesn’t matter about keeping the Sabbath day holy anymore. Depending on the chronological sequence of his letters, Romans may have been written, in part, to correct misunderstandings on the continuity of the Decalogue.</p>
<p>-	The pastoral situation in the early Church concerning the Sabbath was probably extremely delicate for a number of reasons. Our Lord’s own teaching to release it from Pharisaic observances, His glorious resurrection on the first day of the week and the composition of the early Churches with believers from both Jewish and Gentile backgrounds would be likely to have made the matter of Sabbath observance very complex.</p>
<p>-	Judeo-Christian influences may be the reason we have come to think of and have a weekend of two days in modern (western?) society.</p>
<p>-	Humanism being re-inforced through UNHR influences is posing many complex considerations for the Church.</p>
<p>-	God greatly used Martin Luther in the recovery of the vital Biblical teaching of Justification by Faith. This does not necessarily mean, however, that everything he wrote is correct. Only God’s Word is infallible (1 Peter1:20-21)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 10:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate you not stating that Sunday is Sabbath, but have questions on why Sabbath has passed away.  I have tried to address each point, even if it is to agree, just so there is no confusion by skipping one.  Not each one is a question, but if you would be willing to point out my error it would really help me.  Thank you.
1)	Colossians passage:  Why does the fact that Sabbath is “a shadow of things to come but the substance belongs to Christ” mean that it is no longer binding?  I am not sure I understand the logic that was used there.  Also, would not the shadow only be there when what is creating it is present?  It seems you are understanding that because we have the substance, we no longer would have a shadow.
2)	a)  Sabbath was the sign to Israel:  When Sabbath is given in Exodus 20, it is set because:  “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy”.  This seems to be tied to creation.   I understand that it was later given again and set also as a sign of the covenant, for whatever reason it is the day God made holy.  Can we void that? And if so, under what authority?
b)	Being under the New Covenant means that “I will put my law within them”.  Why is Sabbath not part of this law that is being used under the New Covenant?
3)	The other nine commandments:  Sabbath is the only one of the 10 that is listed as a covenant forever Ex 31:16.
4)	Early church worship on the first day of the week:  Agree!  I knew there could be one item we agree on!  I would say that what we see in Acts 20:7 appears to me to be a service at the end of Sabbath.  Saturday night would be the first day of the week and it does seem to make more sense with Paul talking until midnight.  Just a thought on that one.
5)	Gentile nations:  The Gentile nations come to God the same way as the Jewish nations do.  Gentiles are graphed into the faith.  Does God give Gentiles a whole other set of instructions?  
6)	These is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping Sabbath before the giving of the law :  I assume you are excluding God here!   (this is as sarcastic as I will get – I hope it came across in the fun manner that it was meant)  I am not sure we know how much of the law was practiced before Moses.  We certainly see part of it being known to the people (i.e.  sacrifice, clean and unclean animals), but I agree…God is the only one seen keeping a Sabbath before He gave it to the people.
7)	Apostles met at the Jerusalem council:  Could I have your read on Acts 15:21?  It looks to me like they did not put more onto the new converts because they would learn it as they heard it in the synagogues on Sabbath.
8)	Paul warned of sins:  OK.
9)	Galatians 4:10-11:  This appears to be written to a group of non-Jews.  Why do you feel they were struggling with Sabbath (Sabbath is not even mentioned)?  Why was it OK for Paul himself to observe “special days” (Pentecost is just one example)
10)	Romans 14:5:  I think this is dealing more with how we treat (condemn or build up) those who are weak.  According to this one we do not even know if it is the weak who esteems one day as better or is it the strong who does.  
11)	Early church fathers:  Tough one!  These are men that feared God and loved Him, but like all of us, they could err.  I would prefer to talk from scripture before we talk from history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate you not stating that Sunday is Sabbath, but have questions on why Sabbath has passed away.  I have tried to address each point, even if it is to agree, just so there is no confusion by skipping one.  Not each one is a question, but if you would be willing to point out my error it would really help me.  Thank you.<br />
1)	Colossians passage:  Why does the fact that Sabbath is “a shadow of things to come but the substance belongs to Christ” mean that it is no longer binding?  I am not sure I understand the logic that was used there.  Also, would not the shadow only be there when what is creating it is present?  It seems you are understanding that because we have the substance, we no longer would have a shadow.<br />
2)	a)  Sabbath was the sign to Israel:  When Sabbath is given in Exodus 20, it is set because:  “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy”.  This seems to be tied to creation.   I understand that it was later given again and set also as a sign of the covenant, for whatever reason it is the day God made holy.  Can we void that? And if so, under what authority?<br />
b)	Being under the New Covenant means that “I will put my law within them”.  Why is Sabbath not part of this law that is being used under the New Covenant?<br />
3)	The other nine commandments:  Sabbath is the only one of the 10 that is listed as a covenant forever Ex 31:16.<br />
4)	Early church worship on the first day of the week:  Agree!  I knew there could be one item we agree on!  I would say that what we see in Acts 20:7 appears to me to be a service at the end of Sabbath.  Saturday night would be the first day of the week and it does seem to make more sense with Paul talking until midnight.  Just a thought on that one.<br />
5)	Gentile nations:  The Gentile nations come to God the same way as the Jewish nations do.  Gentiles are graphed into the faith.  Does God give Gentiles a whole other set of instructions?<br />
6)	These is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping Sabbath before the giving of the law :  I assume you are excluding God here!   (this is as sarcastic as I will get – I hope it came across in the fun manner that it was meant)  I am not sure we know how much of the law was practiced before Moses.  We certainly see part of it being known to the people (i.e.  sacrifice, clean and unclean animals), but I agree…God is the only one seen keeping a Sabbath before He gave it to the people.<br />
7)	Apostles met at the Jerusalem council:  Could I have your read on Acts 15:21?  It looks to me like they did not put more onto the new converts because they would learn it as they heard it in the synagogues on Sabbath.<br />
 <img src='http://www.sfpulpit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Paul warned of sins:  OK.<br />
9)	Galatians 4:10-11:  This appears to be written to a group of non-Jews.  Why do you feel they were struggling with Sabbath (Sabbath is not even mentioned)?  Why was it OK for Paul himself to observe “special days” (Pentecost is just one example)<br />
10)	Romans 14:5:  I think this is dealing more with how we treat (condemn or build up) those who are weak.  According to this one we do not even know if it is the weak who esteems one day as better or is it the strong who does.<br />
11)	Early church fathers:  Tough one!  These are men that feared God and loved Him, but like all of us, they could err.  I would prefer to talk from scripture before we talk from history.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Jacobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Jacobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Setting aside the theological answer of if the sabbath day should be kept or not and if it is still in tact, which oddly enough will never be agreed on by all Christians, what harm can come from keeping the Sabbath Day Holy. Looking at it from a moral and philosophical standpoint wether it exists or not I think we as a Christian community can take much spiritual gain from keeping it holy regardless if it is still a law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting aside the theological answer of if the sabbath day should be kept or not and if it is still in tact, which oddly enough will never be agreed on by all Christians, what harm can come from keeping the Sabbath Day Holy. Looking at it from a moral and philosophical standpoint wether it exists or not I think we as a Christian community can take much spiritual gain from keeping it holy regardless if it is still a law.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/05/03/must-we-keep-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-20889</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnold Fruchtenbaum from Ariel Ministries has a lesson on Sabbath keeping and the Law of Moses verses the Law of Christ.  He teaches that keeping a particular Sabbath day is no longer required.  He also does not make any distinction between a moral and a ceremonial law.  His point is that all 613 aspects of the Mosaic law was fulfilled in Christ.  We now operate according to the Law of Christ.  He teaches that the Law of Christ is similar but that it is an alltogether different Law.  As an example using traffic laws:  If you live in Ohio which has a law against running red lights and travel to Indiana and run a red light, you have violated Indiana law not Ohio law.  Or if you live in a state that does not permit right turns on red and then travel to a state that does, when you make a right turn on red you have not viloated the previous state&#039;s law because it does not apply.  The same with the Law of Moses verses the Law of Christ.  The Law of Moses does not apply because it has been replaced by the Law of Christ in this new dispensation of grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnold Fruchtenbaum from Ariel Ministries has a lesson on Sabbath keeping and the Law of Moses verses the Law of Christ.  He teaches that keeping a particular Sabbath day is no longer required.  He also does not make any distinction between a moral and a ceremonial law.  His point is that all 613 aspects of the Mosaic law was fulfilled in Christ.  We now operate according to the Law of Christ.  He teaches that the Law of Christ is similar but that it is an alltogether different Law.  As an example using traffic laws:  If you live in Ohio which has a law against running red lights and travel to Indiana and run a red light, you have violated Indiana law not Ohio law.  Or if you live in a state that does not permit right turns on red and then travel to a state that does, when you make a right turn on red you have not viloated the previous state&#8217;s law because it does not apply.  The same with the Law of Moses verses the Law of Christ.  The Law of Moses does not apply because it has been replaced by the Law of Christ in this new dispensation of grace.</p>
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		<title>By: theologian</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/05/03/must-we-keep-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-20868</link>
		<dc:creator>theologian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 13:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isa 56 is an excellent chapter which repeatedly speaks of the Sabbath. The interesting thing about this chapter is that it is speaking of the New Testament Church, not the OT. Verse 4 speaks of eunuchs having God&#039;s house and being within His walls. This was never accepted in the OT Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isa 56 is an excellent chapter which repeatedly speaks of the Sabbath. The interesting thing about this chapter is that it is speaking of the New Testament Church, not the OT. Verse 4 speaks of eunuchs having God&#8217;s house and being within His walls. This was never accepted in the OT Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Pulpit Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/05/03/must-we-keep-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-20834</link>
		<dc:creator>Pulpit Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Not sure what&#039;s wrong. We appear to be having some commenting problems on another thread too. Please try posting again. If it still doesn&#039;t work, we will arrange for you to email your comments to us -- so that we can post them on your behalf.

Sorry for the inconvenience. 

- Nate B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Not sure what&#8217;s wrong. We appear to be having some commenting problems on another thread too. Please try posting again. If it still doesn&#8217;t work, we will arrange for you to email your comments to us &#8212; so that we can post them on your behalf.</p>
<p>Sorry for the inconvenience. </p>
<p>- Nate B.</p>
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