Comments on: Don’t Lose Any Sleep Over Jesus’ Lost Tomb http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/ A Ministry of Shepherds' Fellowship Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:35:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Gerald Gervais http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-62823 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:37:51 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-62823 Lose Sleep???, the notion that a final discovery of our Lord's final resting place of his remains, and that of his family would surely not shake my faith and my personal relationship with God and his son. Your words are so driven and forceful to disprove a simple idea without even truly knowing yourself, are you losing sleep? The overall feeling I get from this article and most I have read on the "Lost Tomb" is that of fear. Relax and let your anxieties rest for all will be known in time. God Bless all of you... Lose Sleep???, the notion that a final discovery of our Lord’s final resting place of his remains, and that of his family would surely not shake my faith and my personal relationship with God and his son.

Your words are so driven and forceful to disprove a simple idea without even truly knowing yourself, are you losing sleep?

The overall feeling I get from this article and most I have read on the “Lost Tomb” is that of fear. Relax and let your anxieties rest for all will be known in time.

God Bless all of you…

]]> by: Jesus’ Tomb Found? at PastorResources Blog http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-11100 Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:46:12 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-11100 [...] Christian Responses: Richard Bauckham (and here), Tony Beam, Craig Blomberg, Jon Bloom (and here), Darrell Bock, Sean Boisen, Rick Brannan (and here), Nathan Busenitz (and here), Scott Clark, Ray Comfort, Todd Friel, Mike Heiser, Andreas Köstenberger (and here and here), Scot McKnight, Albert Mohler, John Piper (MP3 interview), James White (and here, here, here, MP3 interview, here, here, here, here, and here), James Emery White, Tyler Williams (and here), and Ben Witherington (and here, here, here, and here). [...] […] Christian Responses: Richard Bauckham (and here), Tony Beam, Craig Blomberg, Jon Bloom (and here), Darrell Bock, Sean Boisen, Rick Brannan (and here), Nathan Busenitz (and here), Scott Clark, Ray Comfort, Todd Friel, Mike Heiser, Andreas Köstenberger (and here and here), Scot McKnight, Albert Mohler, John Piper (MP3 interview), James White (and here, here, here, MP3 interview, here, here, here, here, and here), James Emery White, Tyler Williams (and here), and Ben Witherington (and here, here, here, and here). […]

]]> by: Jason Hommel http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10464 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:29:17 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10464 Problem stated:- the assumption that Jesus’ family could afford a wealthy burial place such as this; But that is actually consistent with the Biblical account: a rich man would have a wealthy burial place! And according to the teachings of Jesus, if you follow Jesus, you are a part of his family. Matthew 27 57 As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. 58 Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus' body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. 59 Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away. Problem stated:- the assumption that Jesus’ family could afford a wealthy burial place such as this;

But that is actually consistent with the Biblical account: a rich man would have a wealthy burial place! And according to the teachings of Jesus, if you follow Jesus, you are a part of his family.

Matthew 27
57 As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. 58 Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus’ body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. 59 Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away.

]]> by: Chris Rosebrough http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10341 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:51:54 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10341 For a comprehensive and scholarly rebuttal of the film’s evidence please visit <a href="http://www.extremetheology.com" rel="nofollow">ExtremeTheology.com.</a> Read and hear the evidence for yourself. For a comprehensive and scholarly rebuttal of the film’s evidence please visit ExtremeTheology.com.

Read and hear the evidence for yourself.

]]> by: james http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10330 Sun, 04 Mar 2007 21:53:02 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10330 IT's a hoax. Not really a hoax but it's not the tomb. I mean, come on....really. We all claim to believe in the Word and we know there was no body....... No wife.... No sons.... No daughters.... no marriage.... No truth in the greed of these guys wanting to capitalize on religious people's curiosity and hopes. I just have to laugh (lol) when I read this stuff.... james simonsolutions.com IT’s a hoax. Not really a hoax but it’s not the tomb. I mean, come on….really. We all claim to believe in the Word and we know there was no body…….
No wife….
No sons….
No daughters….
no marriage….
No truth in the greed of these guys wanting to capitalize on religious people’s curiosity and hopes.

I just have to laugh (lol) when I read this stuff….

james
simonsolutions.com

]]> by: mefolkes http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10250 Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:03:36 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10250 Rev. Smith, the Cameron crew created the relationship structure for the inscribed ossuaries. As others have mentioned, DNA testing was only done on two. All bones were reburied years ago to appease the hard-line Orthodox Jews, and they were buried in a common grave with many other sets of remains from archaeological digs. These bones could not now be identified if they were recovered. From the "organic residue" tested in the "Jesus" and "Mary Magdalene" ossuaries, no nuclear DNA was found. That is the type of DNA where half comes from each parent. The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) found was not a match between the two individuals. The mtDNA comes exclusively from the mother. It has limited uses to prove relationships, slightly greater uses to disprove them. All we can discern from the non-match of mtDNA here is that the "Mary Magdalene" was not the mother, maternal grandmother, maternal aunt, full sister, half-sister with a common mother, or daughter of a maternal aunt of the "Jesus". One can't say they aren't related. The "Jesus" could be the father, grandfather, paternal uncle or half-brother with a common father but different mother of the "Mary Magdalene". So the Cameron crew erred when they assumed no relationship, and erred even further when they assumed a marriage. And if there was a marriage that accounted for a non-match, perhaps it was between another combination of individuals in the tomb. I think it highly likely that they did no further testing of the ossuaries because they feared being disproved. The mtDNA results from the Judah ossuary would have had to match the results from "Mary Magdalene", or the house of cards would collapse. The mtDNA would have had to match between "Mother Mary" and her putative sons, or the theory is demolished. Likewise, there would have to be a match between "Jesus" and his putative brothers. Rev. Smith, the Cameron crew created the relationship structure for the inscribed ossuaries. As others have mentioned, DNA testing was only done on two. All bones were reburied years ago to appease the hard-line Orthodox Jews, and they were buried in a common grave with many other sets of remains from archaeological digs. These bones could not now be identified if they were recovered. From the “organic residue” tested in the “Jesus” and “Mary Magdalene” ossuaries, no nuclear DNA was found. That is the type of DNA where half comes from each parent. The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) found was not a match between the two individuals. The mtDNA comes exclusively from the mother. It has limited uses to prove relationships, slightly greater uses to disprove them. All we can discern from the non-match of mtDNA here is that the “Mary Magdalene” was not the mother, maternal grandmother, maternal aunt, full sister, half-sister with a common mother, or daughter of a maternal aunt of the “Jesus”. One can’t say they aren’t related. The “Jesus” could be the father, grandfather, paternal uncle or half-brother with a common father but different mother of the “Mary Magdalene”. So the Cameron crew erred when they assumed no relationship, and erred even further when they assumed a marriage. And if there was a marriage that accounted for a non-match, perhaps it was between another combination of individuals in the tomb. I think it highly likely that they did no further testing of the ossuaries because they feared being disproved. The mtDNA results from the Judah ossuary would have had to match the results from “Mary Magdalene”, or the house of cards would collapse. The mtDNA would have had to match between “Mother Mary” and her putative sons, or the theory is demolished. Likewise, there would have to be a match between “Jesus” and his putative brothers.

]]> by: Dr.Michael Sampson http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10101 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:22:18 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-10101 My statement is"All of this is and act of discredit created by the army of the uprise group of the {ANTI-CHRIST}. We are living in the endtime period of world destruction that is leading to the end of mankind'I believe and will always believe no mater what lies the devil create. " JESUS CHRIST IS LORD.......and all who wait on the lord will see. My statement is”All of this is and act of discredit created by the army of the uprise group of the {ANTI-CHRIST}. We are living in the endtime period of world destruction that is leading to the end of mankind’I believe and will always believe no mater what lies the devil create. ” JESUS CHRIST IS LORD…….and all who wait on the lord will see.

]]> by: Beautiful Feet http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-9916 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:34:39 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-9916 It stands to reason that self proclaimed "I'm the king of the world", James Cameron would cooperate in a de-throning effort of Jesus :-). In a more serious vein though, for many who practice religion, Jesus has been in a tomb all along - He can't do miracles anymore, He doesn't speak to us anymore and He certainly doesn't upset the status quo of our territorial mindsets. People who are looking to dethrone Jesus are lost - they are spiritually starved - they pose no threat to us. Who will be the one to soften their hearts towards the source of their salvation?? It stands to reason that self proclaimed “I’m the king of the world”, James Cameron would cooperate in a de-throning effort of Jesus :-) . In a more serious vein though, for many who practice religion, Jesus has been in a tomb all along - He can’t do miracles anymore, He doesn’t speak to us anymore and He certainly doesn’t upset the status quo of our territorial mindsets. People who are looking to dethrone Jesus are lost - they are spiritually starved - they pose no threat to us. Who will be the one to soften their hearts towards the source of their salvation??

]]> by: The Sweet Dropper :: Does Christianity Have Skeletons in Its Closet? http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-9909 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:03:14 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-9909 [...] The Coffin and DNA of Jesus (Justin Taylor) [...] […] The Coffin and DNA of Jesus (Justin Taylor) […]

]]> by: Good Captain http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-9845 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:56:51 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2007/02/27/dont-lose-any-sleep-over-jesus-lost-tomb/#comment-9845 If bone material were found in the "Jesus" ossuary, were indications of a crucifixion present? If not, then this would also weigh against the claim as no one denies his crucifixion (excluding Muslims) to my knowledge. If bone material were found in the “Jesus” ossuary, were indications of a crucifixion present? If not, then this would also weigh against the claim as no one denies his crucifixion (excluding Muslims) to my knowledge.

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