Comments on: Introducing the ECM (Part 5) http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/ A Ministry of Shepherds' Fellowship Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:54:00 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pastor Astor http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-4676 Pastor Astor Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:08:15 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-4676 An american evangelical calling Bono the chief theologian of the EC... I am just so very glad that american evangelicalism has so clearly stood for orthodoxy, resisting every temptation to get the pure gospel mixed up with, say, nationalism, prosperity thinking, militarism and party politics. Humility and self reflection can be dangerous, it can make your argument seem weak. An american evangelical calling Bono the chief theologian of the EC… I am just so very glad that american evangelicalism has so clearly stood for orthodoxy, resisting every temptation to get the pure gospel mixed up with, say, nationalism, prosperity thinking, militarism and party politics. Humility and self reflection can be dangerous, it can make your argument seem weak.

]]> By: I’m Going to Pick a Fight » Strangers and Exiles http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-4599 I’m Going to Pick a Fight » Strangers and Exiles Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:40:27 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-4599 [...] Introducing the ECM (Part 5) [...] [...] Introducing the ECM (Part 5) [...]

]]> By: donsands http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3790 donsands Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:15:42 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3790 Morris, "men's bible study group" We need about ten million more of those in our day. Keep on my brother. Morris,

“men’s bible study group”

We need about ten million more of those in our day. Keep on my brother.

]]> By: Morris Brooks http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3783 Morris Brooks Tue, 05 Dec 2006 06:06:11 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3783 Preach on Don. I just shared that with my men's bible study group earlier tonight. Also, one of the buzz phrases for the emerging church is "it's all about life change." Preach on Don. I just shared that with my men’s bible study group earlier tonight. Also, one of the buzz phrases for the emerging church is “it’s all about life change.”

]]> By: albert http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3775 albert Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:20:29 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3775 Indeed. At least one man finally understands me. ;) Indeed. At least one man finally understands me. ;)

]]> By: Jerry Morningstar http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3774 Jerry Morningstar Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:21:51 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3774 Albert - Isn't that kind of like pointing out that Arminius was Dutch and not an Armenian? Albert – Isn’t that kind of like pointing out that Arminius was Dutch and not an Armenian?

]]> By: ewfunnell http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3772 ewfunnell Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:25:54 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3772 Mark Driscoll recently spoke at John Piper's Desiring God Conference. You can down load his setions for free on the DG website. Other speakers included David Wells and Tim Keller. As well you can subscribe to the pod cast of DG (don't know if it is still available.) Mark Driscoll, in my eyes, has separated him self from the EC movement. It seems he would explain his emergent flavor as being missional. He has great arguments, though I approach with an ear of caution, because I can't quite grasp if he believes in the solo power of scripture to change lives or that being like the culture (in a non-moral sense) and scripture is the necessary one two punch. He begs the question "where is the line drawn between cultural methods and scriptural sufficiency drawn?" ewfunnell Mark Driscoll recently spoke at John Piper’s Desiring God Conference. You can down load his setions for free on the DG website. Other speakers included David Wells and Tim Keller. As well you can subscribe to the pod cast of DG (don’t know if it is still available.)

Mark Driscoll, in my eyes, has separated him self from the EC movement. It seems he would explain his emergent flavor as being missional.

He has great arguments, though I approach with an ear of caution, because I can’t quite grasp if he believes in the solo power of scripture to change lives or that being like the culture (in a non-moral sense) and scripture is the necessary one two punch. He begs the question “where is the line drawn between cultural methods and scriptural sufficiency drawn?”

ewfunnell

]]> By: albert http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3771 albert Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:59:36 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3771 Bono is Irish, not Emergent. Bono is Irish, not Emergent.

]]> By: Josh http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3770 Josh Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:55:07 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3770 Man I didn't know that's where Bono was coming from but it fits now that I read these articles. Wow. Next we'll have metal bands playing at youth camps because they write songs about heaven. Josh "...the word of God is not bound." --2 Timothy 2:9 Man I didn’t know that’s where Bono was coming from but it fits now that I read these articles. Wow. Next we’ll have metal bands playing at youth camps because they write songs about heaven.

Josh
“…the word of God is not bound.”
–2 Timothy 2:9

]]> By: donsands http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-3766 donsands Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:10:49 +0000 http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/12/04/introducing-the-ecm-part-5/#comment-3766 "unorthodox ideas" Orthodoxy is what Satan schemes to water down. The Gospel becomes powerless, and people's hearts are not made alive, but they may in fact turn over a new leaf on life, and change their ways enough to make them feel good about themselves, as Mormons do. Also, Orthodoxy without love is empty. As Paul said, "And though I have prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge, ... and have not love, I am nothing. And though I give all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing." 1 Cor. 13:2-3 If we are doing what we are doing for the glory of Christ, and with the love of Christ, speaking the truth in love, then we can "know that our labour is not in vain in the Lord." 1 Cor. 15:58 “unorthodox ideas”

Orthodoxy is what Satan schemes to water down. The Gospel becomes powerless, and people’s hearts are not made alive, but they may in fact turn over a new leaf on life, and change their ways enough to make them feel good about themselves, as Mormons do.

Also, Orthodoxy without love is empty.

As Paul said, “And though I have prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge, … and have not love, I am nothing. And though I give all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing.” 1 Cor. 13:2-3

If we are doing what we are doing for the glory of Christ, and with the love of Christ, speaking the truth in love, then we can “know that our labour is not in vain in the Lord.” 1 Cor. 15:58

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